corruptedsouls: ('Cause now)
Tobias Hayes ([personal profile] corruptedsouls) wrote in [community profile] witchesreign2013-02-12 07:11 am

[BBS]

[Tobias has had to mull over his thoughts for the assembly for a little while. It's just... been confusing him, not being able to get a straight thought about it that made sense to him. So, as he usually has when he's been confused, he's going to the BBS.]

I understand not wanting to be a part of this school sometimes. But why would anyone not want to be a part of Garden itself? Or be friends with us?

And why would they need to attack anyone? Can't they get everyone to "acknowledge them diplomatically" in a way that no one gets hurt?
espio: (hmm...)

[personal profile] espio 2013-02-12 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I met their leader up in Esthar, back when I went to that orphanage. We weren't attacked or anything, they only wanted to talk.

From what I gather, Sol Invictus sees being part of Garden as "selling out" - giving up their independence and personal goals to become part of something that goes against their beliefs. Not to mention, Garden places restrictions on us. Not that we always follow those restrictions, and we don't really get punished for it.

ESPIO
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espio: (and...?)

[personal profile] espio 2013-02-12 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
We don't see it like that, but that's not to say others don't see differently. Some may disagree strongly with the "work for whoever pays most" thing, for example. Others may just want to travel and see the world, even if it's a foreign one - we can't really do that in Garden.

Then there's this: we see the Garden as home. We care about it and protect it. But home means something different to other people - someone who's part of Sol Invictus would see that as home, and they'll care about and protect Sol Invictus. Misunderstandings and a conflict of interest lead to fighting - one faction protects their home, the other protects their own, and it all gets pointlessly drawn out.
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espio: (srs lizard)

[personal profile] espio 2013-02-12 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
They've been trying to open up negotiations between them and Garden. I don't know how those are going, or if they're even proceeding with them.

I don't think they're necessarily our enemy.
espio: (explain this please)

[personal profile] espio 2013-02-12 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
So when did they come up? That assembly?

[The one he didn't attend.]
espio: (kind of suspicious...)

[personal profile] espio 2013-02-12 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Guess I should have gone to it.

On a related note, I'm glad you're okay after all that.

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redcinemareel: (Grell: srs bsns)

[personal profile] redcinemareel 2013-02-13 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not too keen on being friends with them, mostly for the fact that they see us as a threat. It's bad enough natives already do so since our arrival.

They have a valid point, however. It would be more beneficial to sustain ourselves than try to fit in, most days.
redcinemareel: (Grell: oh well)

[personal profile] redcinemareel 2013-02-13 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Whatever we do or do not do wouldn't change how others feel about us already, don't you think?

Everyone has their own perceptions of what is or isn't acceptable. Most can be cruel about it.
redcinemareel: (Grell: oh well)

[personal profile] redcinemareel 2013-02-16 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
You're proving my point. The people you know now won't think differently of you. The one that do not will do the same.

A lot of people are set in their ways, but under the right conditions they can change.
redcinemareel: (Grell: Knows no bounds)

[personal profile] redcinemareel 2013-02-18 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
[Well, it's a step toward understanding.]

One of us should have hope. It's better that it be you.

[She could care less about humanity outside her close circle.]
redcinemareel: (Grell: oh well)

[personal profile] redcinemareel 2013-02-18 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I have little need for hope.

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fierybluebird: (thinking)

[personal profile] fierybluebird 2013-02-14 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Not really.

Offensive tactics are usually the quickest way to get fast acknowledgement of strength and skills, unfortunately.
fierybluebird: (looking forward to the future)

[personal profile] fierybluebird 2013-02-14 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
People don't always have the same ideas of what "help" entails, eh?
fierybluebird: (Something on your mind?)

[personal profile] fierybluebird 2013-02-20 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
One might still unexpectedly present itself kiddo.