[He folds his arms, looking back down.]

She hates us. Me especially, of course, I don't think that's surprising to anyone.

[He lifts a hand to rub his jaw, smiling at Lightning as he looks up.]

She hits like you, though. That's how I know she's closer to you than... well, anyone thinks. Everyone else avoids her. Hope hates her. I don't blame him. I tried to show him that it's not her fault, that she's being used. Not sure I got through to him.

She needs help, Lightning. I don't know how we could ever give it to her, but she's been fooled and used by Dysley. She's not really our enemy.